Deus Ex Mankind Divided - What to know for new playthrough |
- Mankind Divided - What to know for new playthrough
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- Adam Jensen in the future
- Why Human Revolution led to failure of a sequel, the opinion of one Deus Ex fan
| Mankind Divided - What to know for new playthrough Posted: 28 Oct 2019 12:53 PM PDT So i own a copy of Mankind Divided, but never got past the first arrival in Prague. I am replaying Human Revolution, and almost done with the game. Hoping this recent playthrough will give me enough umf to go into Mankind Divided again. From those who have played it, what do i need to know about Mankind Divided that you wish you knew when you started? My normal play style is stealth/hacker. While i don't mind a firefight, i MUCH prefer to reprogram bots and turrets and turn them against the guards. [link] [comments] |
| Posted: 28 Oct 2019 03:00 AM PDT Ùtulek means "shelter" in english, its pretty obvious why it is named Ùtulek Complex. A shelter for the augmented [link] [comments] |
| Posted: 27 Oct 2019 03:34 PM PDT So I was wondering. Do y'all think that Adam is still alive in 2052 and 2072? I like to think that even though he really wanted to save the world from the Illuminati, that he was forced to retire from old age. Kind of like Batman did in the first episode of Batman Beyond. It would be awesome if they were to make a 3rd game to finally see where Jensen's story ends in this series. What do y'all think? This is a link to some images to how Adam might look when he gets older https://pin.it/d2evnyz2dcd7go [link] [comments] |
| Why Human Revolution led to failure of a sequel, the opinion of one Deus Ex fan Posted: 28 Oct 2019 07:23 AM PDT I still remember seeing the original Deus Ex on sale at Electronics Boutique when I was there to purchase Soldier of Fortune in June or July 2000. I ended up getting it, and loving it more than the game I went for. Soldier of Fortune was super violent, it was a game you could see intestines come out of enemies and blow their heads off, and yet, Deus Ex was way more entertaining even with crappier graphics. The thing that really made Deus Ex was the story. Yes, it was derivative and not entirely new, but, it was the first time we as players could play through a relatively well written story based on popular conspiracy theories. It appears somebody, possibly Specter and possibly someone he knows, is into these things enough to know how to write a story that sounds believable to others who are into such ideas. This is critical. If you write a story without knowledge of the background then fans of the background will crap all over your story. You need to learn about the Illuminati before writing stories involving them. Deus Ex did a nice job, and there are areas that could be greater, but, overall, they succeeded. Human Revolution is a totally different case. It appears the writers had no idea what the Illuminati is or what any of the conspiracy theories they touched on really even mean. They seemed to treat the various groups as just separate factions, when that is not how they supposedly operate at all. Double agents between secret societies are common if you read the actual conspiracies. This idea of such divine loyalty to these groups by any singular figure is rather laughable. The Illuminati in HR feels like the church of scientology met tesla, it does not feel like an over arching secretive cabal of billionaires with access to world armies. Where was the actual army, any tank, any plane, or anything manned of any type in the story? Where were organized formations of dozens or hundreds of soldiers? It was like armies and air forces did not exist or something. They just had small amounts of soldiers and bots, nothing beyond that. It was weird. Nobody seemed to actually fly jet planes anymore, nobody ever flew to intercept you or anybody else. It was like other planes just did not exist. Malik is shot down with a rocket launcher. The only plane in the series aside from the thing Malik flies is the 747 in the first game as far as I know. That seems odd. A rich guy has a 747 in 2052, but nobody flies jets in 2027. We were I guess supposed to believe the military destroyed itself too or something, and was too dumb to figure out Panchaea was related to anything. Nobody ever shows up like, hey, we noticed you are doing something here with our satellites and decided to send the navy or an airplane or a drone. Nothing. It was also quite absurd that Darrow surrounded himself with security guards who were augmented knowing they would go crazy in front of him, but, anyway, the whole story had issues but that is not the point. HR felt like, hey, we have this actually really fascinating story about augmentations and how society could react to them, so let's add the Illuminati somewhere so that it can be turned into a pre quel for Deus Ex. The Illuminati role in the story felt forced. To me, it felt like the story had the military written as the role they converted into the Illuminati. If you mentally change the Illuminati to the military, the story makes a lot better sense. They act like a military. They just took a good story, and changed every mention of the military to the Illuminati and called it Deus Ex. I am curious if the original story can still be found anywhere to try to find out if this is true. It made little sense overall from my perspective. Human Revolution Illuminati felt like a scary organization that was ultimately less powerful than the police forces in the game, which is strange for a group that is reported to have no issues taking out anybody in society when they so desire. Again, they felt like some private cult, not the puppet masters of continents. The Illuminati in the old Deus Ex was much scarier, Agent Smith scary. New Deus Ex Illuminati feels sort of like the Syndicate in the x files, powerful, but not thousands of years old or with the globe in a head lock. They had a world financial monopoly, intangibly gargantuan levels of power, the best technology, and political ability built on thousands of years of history but nobody thought of compartmentalizing the figurehead from the exact knowledge of the base operation? That is rather strange for a multiple thousand year old international cabal. It is like whoever wrote the story was never into any conspiracy theories because the Illuminati part was totally not believable. The people running things and the people who have public jobs with known names need to be written to be different people if you read the conspiracies. The real leaders may not even officially legally exist if you read the conspiracies. Taggart would not be a main player if only because he would be too publicly known to maintain the secrecy required. It makes no sense. Taggart would be the most immediately obvious person to capture and interrogate to find answers, therefore, Taggart would not be given the answers. He cannot reveal things he is not informed of. A better way would have been that Taggart leads Jensen to someone with actual knowledge who was supposed to remain secret, either because Taggart was forced, followed, or affected by the phermones, and then Taggart is immediately found dead with six bullet wounds to the back and is officially declared a suicide and the body goes missing and the medical examiner dies two days later mysteriously and his body is never recovered. That is what the Illuminati are known for, killing and then covering it up, and several times in the story I was wondering why a character was still even alive. The Illuminati seem weak in the game because they barely do anything. The Asian CEO should not have been the end boss either, that was another thing that made no sense. There are good reasons the DE series has not done as well as they hoped, and I think this is one of them. People who don't care about conspiracy theories still don't care, and people who do care see them totally misrepresented. It is a lose lose if it is done improperly. The Human Revolution story was done so badly that even though I enjoyed the game, and even bought the sequel this year, I have not yet installed it and it may still be a bit before I do. I just saw how the Deus Ex story was treated, and it was poorly thought out and almost as though nobody on the team bothered reading about the theories they based the game on. I loved the game overall. It should not carry the Deus Ex title however. If it was called Jensen: Human Revolution and then Jensen: Mankind Divided I would be much happier. There was no reason to push this story into the Deus Ex universe. Yes, it involves augmentations, so I see why it was done, but this clearly was not written as a Deus Ex story. This was a different story that they jammed into a Deus Ex mold and it did not come out. Listening to the Director cut commentary makes this extremely clear. These people were not that informed on the ideas they put into their story to try to make it into a Deus Ex. Please be more careful with your properties Square. This series deserves a fantastic reboot or sequel but, not like this. Hire a real conspiracy fiction writer in the future, and perhaps focus group the story with fans of the first, and you may come up with something groundbreaking. [link] [comments] |
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